Albert Hackert and Otto Heckert

I noticed the picture in one of the albums and I believe Salter built his studios as well as the lodge and some of these entrance stations. Here’s Kiser’s studio.  

I think Salter had a son. When we were up there he was in the construction business. He got a contract in Medford building something. Harold Salter. That was his boy. But he was just a kid when he was up there. He just hung around. He didn’t do nothing. Here’s the truck that I went off the bridge with. It went down and hit against the bridge timber, the bridge support, and slid backwards on its side. I can remember those boulders going past my head. It was an open cab, you know, with a little canvas top on it and slid back down there from about the approach of the bridge about up here. It had front-end loaders that slide over there. There’s the team that I drove up there, four horses. (OH)

What’s the difference between that kind of grader and what they call the Fresno scraper?  

A grader like this had the wheels on it. The Fresno scraper, you got like a slip scraper with a trip handle on it. You know they used to trip them with a rope, a yard or half yard. (OH)

You had two different sizes of those. One’s called a Fresno and the other was a slip scraper about this wide. The Fresno was wider. (AH)

You had a trip rope on the Fresno and on the other you just had two handles and when you dump you just raise it up and it flipped over and emptied. If the point of it caught a rock, while the horse was pulling and you didn’t let go of the handle, it would throw you over the horses. You had to dump it that way, you know, lift up on the handles just like a wheel barrow without a wheel in the front.

How did they excavate the annex of the Lodge? Did they have a scraper or a grader to dig?

It was one of those slip scrapers. They were just about this wide and you used two horses. You’d just tip them up a little bit and dig in. When they’d get loaded, you’d let them down and drag it out to where they’re dumpling. (AH)

Provided they didn’t catch a stump or something with the front, like I said. (OH)

But that’s the way they dug it. (AH)