Right, it was still viable in ’68, when the legislation passed.
Okay, I know the League was very much adamant….
Yeah, they still are. The last time I talked with them which was six, seven years ago now, they were still that way.
[Ron] Did you seriously consider the whole of Redwoods area for a National Park?
We considered it, but not for….
[Ron] Not for any length of time?
Not for any length of time, no. There were a number of other places, some of this Headwaters stuff they talk about now, some of that was very nice. One of the offers, there is always offers and counter offers, in this type of thing when you are dealing with these things. One of the timber companies, I don’t remember which one it was, wanted to swap that for something else up here and then we would have a detached unit miles away. Which is all right, but we rather decided it be best to keep it together.
[Ron] Did you have any dealings with the Forest Service over the Yurok Forest?
No, the dealings with Forest Service that we had, Ed Cliff was involved in that, I think. It was what they called a purchase unit and that became part of the exchange that ultimately transpired.
Ed Cliff was in what capacity at that point, was he…?
He was at that time head of BOR.
Okay, so he had been Chief of the Forest Service at one time, but now gone on to BOR?
Right, remember now, when the legislation creating BOR was set up, they were the planning agency for recreation in the United States. They had their input into what was going on so far as creating parks go.
[Ron] So that was their connection for surveying the boundary?
Right, worked good. They did some very good work. Of course at my level you work the whole spectrum, but working here I worked predominately with the timer companies and the Forest Service. BLM was not an actor at that stage of the game, we really didn’t have anything involving them. Subsequently there was, but not at that stage of it.