Another one of my questions was, did you ever meet Steel before?
No, I never met Steel.
What’s that here. How strong was the Berkeley influence on the NPS?Well…
It seemed like most of the early guys were University of California graduates.
Yeah, well that’s all I can say. Merriam, and Vint, Sager went back East. A few of the early guys, lets see, Merriam, and Vint, and what’s his name…Albright, he went to Cal.
Mather.
Mather. They all had, I think they were all; I’m not, per se landscape architects. I think they were all environmentalists willing to set aside National Parks to preserve all the natural environmental studies. I think that was the intent of a lot of these early guys, which you had to have that to begin with. Landscaping and architecture followed in place after these things and once it had been set up. And I think a lot of that did take place around the Berkeley area. Although eastern people were highly interested in the NPS too, you know.
You never knew Daniels?
No I don’t. I heard of him, I don’t remember him to tell you the truth. But I remember … I never met Mather, I think he died…
In the 1930’s.
I remember when he died, but I haven’t me him. I met Albright a number of times.
They planted a tree in his memory on the Rim. I haven’t been able to locate it yet.
Daniels, now I’m trying to think of Daniels. Where was he first associated?
Well, he was before Albright. He was before there was a park service, that 1 year or 2 years. He had his own business.
I know it, yeah. I think he was a private consultant or something, I don’t know what it was. I never met him. I’ve heard of him. But I knew…Solinsky, I liked him very much. Treated me very well. He was a landscape architect; I don’t recall when he was. I didn’t know him too well.