Yes, I found that road survey and it’s very good.
Yes. No big deal. But again, you know, there’s always somebody going to say, “Oh, you can’t do that. Oh, oh, oh, you can’t do that.” Then, of course, you can do that. All you need is the facts. If the facts had said don’t do this, then we wouldn’t have done it.
Did you have any contact with some of the people that had been superintendent at Crater Lake before, like Frank Betts?
I stayed away from Frank Betts (26). Frank pushed very hard to put his kid, who had lived there, into Crater Lake. I was not about to buy into that type of concept at all. That makes no sense.
And I suppose that there were other people that would go further back, like Don Spalding?
Let’s stay [with Betts]. So I always kind of stayed away from him. I know Frank, but that was never a part of it. I talked to Don Spalding a couple of times about some issues over the years. And one person that I talked quite a lot to, on a number of occasions, particularly as it related to wintering over and use of the historic buildings and how people survived and so on, was Len Volz (27). I spent quite a number of hours talking to Len about the period of time he was here. He wasn’t here all that long, but Len had an unusual insight into people and problems. He was a pretty fair regional director. 1 had known him when I was superintendent at Colorado Monument. He had been regional director for a while there for me. And he was unusual, which gave me a chance to ask questions, and to get some insights, that I might not have trusted from some other [person]. Einar Johnson. No, I don’t think I ever talked to Einar.
And I suppose that there were other people that would go further back, like Don Spalding?
Let’s stay [with Betts]. So I always kind of stayed away from him. I know Frank, but that was never a part of it. I talked to Don Spalding a couple of times about some issues over the years. And one person that I talked quite a lot to, on a number of occasions, particularly as it related to wintering over and use of the historic buildings and how people survived and so on, was Len Volz (27). I spent quite a number of hours talking to Len about the period of time he was here. He wasn’t here all that long, but Len had an unusual insight into people and problems. He was a pretty fair regional director. 1 had known him when I was superintendent at Colorado Monument. He had been regional director for a while there for me. And he was unusual, which gave me a chance to ask questions, and to get some insights, that I might not have trusted from some other [person]. Einar Johnson. No, I don’t think I ever talked to Einar.
