Hatfield was involved with that one outside.
Yeah. I didn’t get in on that one, I don’t think. I’m sure I wasn’t here for that one. The only one I was in on was the in-house one right here, it was over at the top of the school building here, the community building. And it got to be very fiery at times. Everybody had their own ideas of what should have been done and what wasn’t done, and like you mentioned, there were seasonals who were hassling permanents and visa versa. I think that guy that may have had the horse, the seasonal who had the horse up a few years ago, I don’t know, but he was one of ones who was pretty serious about the whole thing (31). I don’t remember names. But, Dick Sims had to be transferred, there was no question about that. Each one of things that you take on as a superintendent is you take on that possibility that if something happens you may be the fall guy. And that’s exactly what happened. But I think it broke him for awhile. I know that he recovered, but I think it really put him down for awhile. He did not look at it the way I’m seeing it; you just got to take this that it’s just part of the game that if something goes wrong, you’re the fall guy.
So, was Frank Betts brought in for certain reasons?
Yeah, Frank was a pretty strong individual. Frank worked for me in Yosemite. I knew Frank very well, and I certainly pushed it since he was one of the ones they were thinking about that they would bring in. I thought he would do a good job. As far as I know, he did do a good job. He’s a good public relations man, and I think he’s a good healer. The things that he did, I don’t know, I haven’t talked to people…
His stint was that three years where he was sent here to put things right and then move.
He moved to Alaska, yeah. We were up here as private citizens after that time, because I retired in the next February or so. We got up here and Frank was superintendent. The best I know, he did a good job and kind of healed things. I think that in a park like Crater Lake that you’re always going to have some division between the divisions. I think it’s just going to happen. I don’t think you’ll get away from it anywhere you go, as far as that’s concerned, it may be quieting down in some of the places. It all depends on the people. So, it’s just the people factor that you always run into.